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BettyZ 06-09-2019 11:54 PM

Ugh... reference my prior comment ab burning it down and starting anew..

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jchammond 06-10-2019 02:27 AM

I’m hoping to get something started up pretty soon; just haven’t ironed out all details...even thought of getting a nice portable 16x24 or 32 with roll up front & side entrance door...can always use for storage afterwards :ugh2:
They’re some pretty nice ones out there & would be easy to insulate, heat & cool :tup:
Some people are actually buying these & living in them...because of the building codes that they follow :eek:
But I’d call it a “doofer”(do for now) till I can get the larger one installed behind house :ugh2:

jchammond 06-10-2019 02:54 AM

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One like this for now & wouldn’t go to waste,,,as I’m a collector :icon17:

SouthArk370Z 06-10-2019 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BettyZ (Post 3859378)
Ugh... reference my prior comment ab burning it down and starting anew..

It's a little disheartening but only a minor setback. If HD doesn't have 22-1/2" wide styrofoam, they should have something that will work. I'm mainly looking at ease-of-installation.

I've heard rumors of fiberglass in a flattened paper tube so that only the ends have exposed fiberglass. Plus a higher R than styrofoam.

It's not always fun but it's never boring. ;)

BettyZ 06-10-2019 09:02 AM

I know they have batts that'll fit. Or you could cut every other styrofoam board in 8 inch slices and then seal the connecting edges... but that's the opposite of "ease of installation" lol

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Fuzzzy 06-10-2019 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3859237)
LOL I've got most of the pegboard covered and still have more tools to be hung - I've been collecting for over 40 years. I have a LOT of pliers of different sorts. For some reason, most of my slotted screwdrivers have disappeared - picked up a pack of cheap ones while shopping to use while I look for my lost sheep.

Got some hook assortment packs whilst at Home Depot. They even had a gizmo to hang drills that fits my drill.

Also got some spade bits to drill holes in the cabinets for the stereo wires. Got one hole drilled, so far.

Still throwing crap away. I've been in this house for about 25 years and it's amazing how much stuff has accumulated.

My screwdrivers disappear like that too. In my case I eventually find them scattered around the house. My wife just leaves things where they are when she is through using them. Apparently that is a life-long intractible habit :shakes head:

SouthArk370Z 06-13-2019 10:02 PM

The local Home Depot doesn't stock anything other than 14.5" wide styrofoam. :( And no 22.5" wide double-faced fiberglass. :(

Looks like my three choices are:
1) Cut the styrofoam I have to 22.5" lengths and install "sideways." No protective gear required. Messy when cutting. Available locally. R is only 3/sheet (but there's room for up to 5 layers).
2) Blow in some cellulose. Very messy when installing. Face mask and goggles required in a hot attic. Will be renting equipment, so some time constraints. R 10-15.
3) Use single-faced fiberglass. Protective gear required in a hot environment. I hate fiberglass - I've been exposed several times and it's not fun. R about 15.

Unless someone has a better idea* for insulating my ceiling, I'll try cutting the styrofoam first and see how it goes.

* I would prefer something that doesn't require a lot of protective gear (it gets hot in a S AR attic), can be purchased locally (the biggest problem), and is reasonably cheap. Greater R values are better but it's just a garage.

madwi 06-13-2019 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3860709)
The local Home Depot doesn't stock anything other than 14.5" wide styrofoam. :( And no 22.5" wide double-faced fiberglass. :(

I had to order my insulation and have it shipped to store. HD, Lowes and Menards all dont keep much stock of it in stores, at least near me.
Unloaded it today actually.
https://i.imgur.com/zMP4bPRl.jpg


Edit* I wonder if something like a foam wire cutter would help speed the cutting and not make a large mess. Just a passing thought.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8gfGw2lTkg
I didnt watch this vid so if it is shite, sorry. :icon17:

SouthArk370Z 06-13-2019 10:26 PM

I did some permanent rewiring on the workbench. Bought electrical boxes, 14 ga THHN stranded wire (a LOT easier to work with than solid wire/Romex), wire cover molding, and crimp-on fork lugs. Wired up so there is a duplex switch in one box. From that box, the wiring goes through the molding to 2 duplex receptacles controlled by one switch and 2 LED lights controlled by the other switch. All mounted under the cabinets. A lot like the temporary wiring but more spread out now (and safer).

Found a small laptop (notebook?) computer. Has WinXP on it. Cleared a bunch of crap off the HDD and copied some of my favorite working-on-cars music over. Level of headphone jack on the laptop is real low and won't drive the powered speakers to full volume so I have it jury-rigged into the stereo and then using the stereo headphone jack to drive the speakers. Now I can move the CD changer back inside.

Put the new bench to good use de-rusting some tools for a buddy of mine. Most of them only required an overnight soak in vinegar but there was a big C-clamp that took two days and a lot of scrubbing with a wire brush. Started the second batch of tools this afternoon. While I had the chemicals out, I de-rusted an axe head that I had laying around.

SouthArk370Z 06-13-2019 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by madwi (Post 3860713)
... Edit* I wonder if something like a foam wire cutter would help speed the cutting and not make a large mess. Just a passing thought.
...
I didnt watch this vid so if it is shite, sorry. :icon17:

Interesting. That looks like it would be faster and a LOT less messy than cutting with a saw. For what I'm doing, it doesn't have to make a perfectly straight cut so I should be able to rig something up that works "good enough." Not sure where I'd get Nichrome wire around here but I will do some looking around. Thanks. :tiphat:

Rusty 06-13-2019 11:34 PM

Home Depot and Lowes only carry so much at the stores. You have to go on line to order what you need if the stores don't have it. At Home Depot. Order on line and have it shipped to the store. You don't pay for shipping that way.

madwi 06-14-2019 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3860733)
Home Depot and Lowes only carry so much at the stores. You have to go on line to order what you need if the stores don't have it. At Home Depot. Order on line and have it shipped to the store. You don't pay for shipping that way.

yep. Shipped to store for free. Took a couple weeks to hit my local store from time of ordering.

jchammond 06-14-2019 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3860733)
Home Depot and Lowes only carry so much at the stores. You have to go on line to order what you need if the stores don't have it. At Home Depot. Order on line and have it shipped to the store. You don't pay for shipping that way.

That’s how I get deals on my Ridgid Tools, as they offer things & prices online that aren’t available in stores :ugh2:
Just be sure & DropChit to proper store :icon17:
Had to drive about 45 minutes out the way one afternoon :wtf2:

Rusty 06-14-2019 01:35 AM

I've seen people order Monday morning, and it would be on Tuesday night's trailer. And I would receive it Wednesday morning. Home Depot sends out an e-mail when it is shipped. I have people calling, and asking when they can pick it up. And I haven't even seen it yet. :icon14:

SouthArk370Z 06-19-2019 10:11 AM

I've made a little bit more progress on rehabilitating the garage.

Whoever installed the drywall on the ceiling did a piss-poor job of hitting the rafters with the nails. The carpenter and I screwed some painted 1x4s along the rafters to hold up the unsupported drywall.

I found my screwdrivers! :) Looking for something else and stumbled upon them. I need to take a file to several of them. Three of them ended up in the scrap metal bin.

Started gutting the computer cabinet. Removed all the cables, the AC distribution panel, and the power supplies. All that's left is the very heavy magnetic tape drive (also found the boot tape in the bottom of the cabinet). I need to find someone with a strong back to pull the drive. Once the drive is out, I can install some shelves and have a nice storage cabinet on casters. :)

Cleared out a bunch of old oil, filters, PS fluid, ATF, etc.

Still haven't found a good solution to insulating the ceiling locally. When I'm not quite so sore, I plan on cutting the styrofoam I have to fit between rafters until I can figure something out. Did a little experimenting with the cutting tools I have and found out a hacksaw blade cuts well, makes minimal mess, and is fairly easy to cut a straight line with.

BettyZ 06-19-2019 11:32 AM

What about using that Mylar-esque insulation sheeting?

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SouthArk370Z 06-19-2019 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BettyZ (Post 3862123)
What about using that Mylar-esque insulation sheeting?

If you're talking about the "shiny bubblewrap", I haven't seen any of it in this area.

Before this is over, I'll probably have to order something.

Ghostvette 06-19-2019 12:44 PM

Sub'd for pics when it's done. :tup:

I need to start figuring out my garage. Hopefully the pics will give me some ideas. The challenge I have is that there are only 2 outlets in the entire garage, one runs the garage door and the other has the fridge & small freezer on it. I need to run 50A out for the compressor.... :ugh:

BettyZ 06-19-2019 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghostvette (Post 3862144)
Sub'd for pics when it's done. :tup:

I need to start figuring out my garage. Hopefully the pics will give me some ideas. The challenge I have is that there are only 2 outlets in the entire garage, one runs the garage door and the other has the fridge & small freezer on it. I need to run 50A out for the compressor.... :ugh:

Get an electrician. Challenge solved lol.

My guy put 15 outlets on two distinct circuits into my garage.

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-ZS-Carpenter 06-19-2019 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3862140)
If you're talking about the "shiny bubblewrap", I haven't seen any of it in this area.

Before this is over, I'll probably have to order something.

If you are going to order stuff go to a real lumber yard/building center not Home depot/lowes/menards. You can get panels and batts of any width and most any r value.

I would go with r-38 faced batts then blow 4-6" of cellulose to cover all the gaps. Might be a bit overkill in the south but it will be well sealed to keep the A/C in. Don't forget the rafter vents before you insulate or hang the lid for proper venting

SouthArk370Z 06-19-2019 05:16 PM

Apparently I have been using the wrong term for the lumber. My source tells me that what I have been calling rafters are actually (ceiling) joists. Mea culpa.

-ZS-Carpenter 06-19-2019 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3862203)
Apparently I have been using the wrong term for the lumber. My source tells me that what I have been calling rafters are actually (ceiling) joists. Mea culpa.

Rafters are the angley ones, ceiling joists are the flat ones

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BettyZ 06-19-2019 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by -ZS-Carpenter (Post 3862221)
Rafters are the angley ones, ceiling joists are the flat ones

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I used to call those "sky wood," but then my 4th grade teacher sent me to the social worker...

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Rusty 06-19-2019 09:12 PM

I need a bigger garage. I got 30 lbs of crap in a 5 lb garage. :shakes head: Can't even swing a dead cat over my head without hitting something. :shakes head:

Baronsmokes 06-19-2019 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3862265)
I need a bigger garage. I got 30 lbs of crap in a 5 lb garage. :shakes head: Can't even swing a dead cat over my head without hitting something. :shakes head:

No garage is ever big enough.

cv129 06-19-2019 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BettyZ (Post 3862253)
I used to call those "sky wood," but then my 4th grade teacher sent me to the social worker...

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Lol lol

Rusty 06-19-2019 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Baronsmokes (Post 3862269)
No garage is ever big enough.

I could fill up a 40x40 easy. :shakes head:

SouthArk370Z 06-19-2019 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3862265)
I need a bigger garage. I got 30 lbs of crap in a 5 lb garage. :shakes head: Can't even swing a dead cat over my head without hitting something. :shakes head:

That's where I was when I started this project. Found a receiver with 8-track recorder that I bought when I was in HS. Plugged it in and no lights. Glad I saved that all these years. :shakes head:

Just going to do some cleaning up and it has turned into a major project.

BettyZ 06-19-2019 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3862265)
I need a bigger garage. I got 30 lbs of crap in a 5 lb garage. :shakes head: Can't even swing a dead cat over my head without hitting something. :shakes head:

I'm just impressed you've done what you've done in that coffin of a garage. :tup: I have a 2.5 car garage and it feels cramped if everything isn't put away.

BettyZ 06-19-2019 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Baronsmokes (Post 3862269)
No garage is ever big enough.

:iagree::iagree:

Told the gf the next house is going to be a warehouse with the office as a bedroom.

Rusty 06-19-2019 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BettyZ (Post 3862278)
I'm just impressed you've done what you've done in that coffin of a garage. :tup: I have a 2.5 car garage and it feels cramped if everything isn't put away.

Right now, I have the Z and one motorcycle in it. You should have seen it when I was doing trackdays with motorcycles. There would be at least 6 bikes, and 3 of them in pieces.

SouthArk370Z 06-19-2019 10:51 PM

The computer cabinet is gutted!

Backed a pickup into the garage and dropped the tailgate. Only 3-4" difference between bottom of tape drive sled and tailgate. Unplugged wiring and slid the main tape drive unit onto the tailgate. Salvaged four 12.5"x19" circuit boards for wall "art." Moved pickup to curb and slid the tape unit onto the ground.

Managed to wrestle the tape drive sled onto garage floor and started adding pieces to my scrap metal bin. This thing is built like a tank. I've stripped everything off the sled that was bolted/screwed on and it still weighs about 50 pounds. I now have several dozen machine screws with star washers for my collection. :)
Trying to decide what to do with the sled. Welded construction so I can't easily take it apart. Since I have all the hardware to mount it in the cabinet, I may move the rails to the bottom and use it as a "subcabinet." I'd hate to scrap it - it's a well-built piece - but not sure I'll have a good use for it.

SouthArk370Z 06-22-2019 12:25 PM

Haven't done much the last two days. Mostly "puttering around." Went through some boxes and threw away some more junk. Got the shop vac after the deteriorated sound deadening foam that got on the floor when I gutted the cabinet. Screwed some hooks into the wall and hung up some extension cords. Still looking for a good place to store the jack stands.

I did manage to get all my whet stones gathered up and in one box. I used to make trips to Hot Springs, AR, where they have a lot of rock shops (yep, ppl will pay good money for a shiny rock someone picked up off the ground in their backyard) and I could get various grades of whet stones (with small defects on one side) for cheap.

My buddy has just about convinced me to throw away the tape drive sled - it's heavy, has a barrier about halfway down the sled that cuts most of the space in half, yadda, yadda, yadda. I would like to give it to someone who could make use of it, but I doubt there's anyone like that nearby.

JARblue 06-22-2019 07:21 PM

Post up a pic of the sled if you don't mind. Got a buddy in Sulphur Springs that might be interested and could pick it up.

SouthArk370Z 06-22-2019 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3862807)
Post up a pic of the sled if you don't mind. Got a buddy in Sulphur Springs that might be interested and could pick it up.

I'll try to post some pics tomorrow evening.

SouthArk370Z 06-23-2019 09:19 AM

Uploaded some pics of the sled and a couple of pics of the garage (couldn't upload more than five pics). Nissan 370Z Forum - SouthArk370Z's Album: Sled and Garage

Yeah. I'm a crappy photographer. Sorry about that. Let me know if you need some closeups of the sled.

SouthArk370Z 06-28-2019 09:28 PM

Had a Volvo in the garage the last few days, so I didn't get much done. Buddy's wife's car. He rebuilt the Park/Neutral switch. I did the important stuff like hold the light. :)

Did manage to set up a laptop with a larger screen for playing music - now we can see the titles from across the garage.

Plan on getting up early tomorrow so we can remove junk from the attic and install some insulation before it gets too hot. Put a remote temp sensor up there and it registered 120*F this afternoon.

bunk 06-29-2019 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3864025)
Did manage to set up a laptop with a larger screen for playing music - now we can see the titles from across the garage.

Mount a TV somewhere in your garage and stream from the Laptop.streaming stuff while doing car work would be sweet...

BettyZ 06-29-2019 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bunk (Post 3864086)
Mount a TV somewhere in your garage and stream from the Laptop.streaming stuff while doing car work would be sweet...

By "stuff" you mean "porn" right?

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bunk 06-29-2019 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BettyZ (Post 3864090)
By "stuff" you mean "porn" right?

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Is there any other type of stream??


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